Clinic is over and we definitely got some information.
Let me just start off by saying how SURREAL this whole decision-making thing is. It's not like saying "hey, turkey or ham for lunch today"? Instead, it's like "hey, would you like to live 3 years and remain healthy or maybe just ride it out and see what happens"?
Here are some of the answers:
Tube in or out?-the tube is going to come out. There is the option of leaving it in, but the doctors feel that not only are we prolonging the inevitable, but we also risk completely damaging the kidneys. And, there does come a point that if the kidneys become too weak Geoff will not be eligible for a transplant, ever. I think the Dr. said something like, "sure you can leave the tube in indefinitely (especially if you don't want to go the transplant route) and just ride it out as long as the tube is willing to last". Um, no. Us Dunkles are risk takers, but even that's a little much for us.
So, the tube comes out. With the tube coming out the doctors feel that we should see a significant change to the liver. We didn't get the impression that they felt years would go by without seeing any damage. They stated quite a few times that "there are multiple strictures" in the bile ducts, so they would definitely expect to see "a jump in Geoff's bilirubin" (simply put, that means the liver would be having a hard time). This risk we are willing to take. The plan going forward is for Geoff to stay as healthy as possible, have weekly blood draws, and to help fight off infection he will be on a constant dose of antibiotics. Over time his MELD score should increase and he will be eligible for a normal transplant.
Donor criteria-something new that we learned today. Every pre-transplant patient has a certain criteria that the donor liver must meet in order for the transplant to happen. For example, Geoff''s donor would have to be on the smaller end (because he is a re-transplant and because he isn't a huge guy), preferably younger in age, etc. If time goes on and Geoff is still not transplanted we may have to look into widening our criteria. I. KID. YOU. NOT. when I say that the Dr. mentioned "donors that were in prison, past drug users...". I think I passed out at that point. Obviously, that is a ways down the road, but I tell ya, these doctors have contingency plan after contingency plan. Unreal.
Split-liver transplant-yes, I still think we are considering it, but right now there is not a lot of information on the entire process. We will continue to find out more as we move forward.
Here we go, ready or not. It will probably be a few weeks or so before the tube comes out. The transplant coordinators want to make sure the "new rule" has already gone into effect before removing.
Tuesday, February 3, 2009
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6 comments:
Good info. At least you have some answers and can begin to move forward now.
Wow. Erin, this is incredible and I can totally see how it would feel surreal. You guys are making thoughtful, logical decisions and I have no doubt that you'll get through this somehow. It sounds like you have a good medical team, too (and lots of fab friends around).
Wow Erin! I bet your head is spinning. I'm thinking about you guys!!
I also wanted to mention, check to see what the criteria for Geoff currently is just to make sure it makes sense. Here there are limits but there is a large jump between one and the next "level". First B was set for an under 40 and under 150 pounds. No wonder we waited and waited...how many people are under 150 lbs nowadays?!? So they finally decided to open the criteria for him. They had to bump it to under 60 under 200 lbs. Of course they wouldn't have picked the 200 lb 60 year old liver, but it opened it up to a 151 lb person of any age. THAT NIGHT was the night we got the call. It was young, but a little larger than they first wanted to go. The doctor joked that he had to get it in with a sterile shoehorn.
But, it was an otherwise pristine liver and it fit for him. So maybe check and see what their limits are just to make sure they are keeping all options open. I'm sure they are, it really seems like you are in good hands. Just wanted to mention it!!!
Well it looks like you have been making some tough decisions.
(((((hugs)))))
Melissa,
I totally agree about the donor criteria. Geoff is going to send an e-mail to the transplant coordintor today reqesting the info. Maybe that's why he sat at the #1 stop for 10 flippin days and never got called.
Any other recipients out there know what there critertia is/was?
I think they are a lot more secretive all around here in the northwest region. I mean, they won't even reveal your rank on the list. Until I heard about it from you, I didn't really know about this part (I knew it had to be a size match, but I didn't know that they set criteria like that -- I thought they just evaluated each liver that came in and decided who it would work for). Carl was very, very sick by the time he got on the list though so I'm guessing they went with a pretty wide criteria from the start. I'll e-mail you more about this ...
I hope Geoff gets some good answers about this when he calls!
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